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Post by mh2365 on Jul 17, 2010 18:20:39 GMT -5
Good performance against a name opponent who was tailor made for Zab.
I do think one of the top JWW could make a mistake and offer him a fight. Thinking he is shot and would be a good name to add to their resume.
I think he gives any of the top JWW's all they can handle.
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Post by billyc on Jul 18, 2010 7:54:02 GMT -5
As long as they are a "swinging heavybag" like Santa Cruz was! He looked good against him and I enjoyed it, but the truth is...how would he do against someone who can move and punch? I would be interesting! I think Zab looked good....against Santa Cruz!
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Post by Davema on Jul 18, 2010 9:49:48 GMT -5
Zab looked good, but in the end, he will lose to all the elite..just like usual
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Post by billyc on Jul 18, 2010 10:58:59 GMT -5
Did he look good through your one "open" eye? I heard you were 6 sheets to the wind DRUNK! Thanks for wearing the Billy C shirt while you mingle with the people.....LOL..my main man DaveMa....will be calling you in the AM!
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Post by mh2365 on Jul 18, 2010 13:04:24 GMT -5
I don't think he can beat the top guys but I think he could still give them some issues ... just saying I could see them overlooking him and thinking the could get an easy "name" on their resume.
Also it was the same Santa Cruz that kicked Joel Casamayor's ass for 11 out of 12 rounds yet somehow lost the decision. (worst judging I'd seen since the Sweat Pea/Jose Luis Ramirez fight)
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Post by billyc on Jul 18, 2010 13:49:01 GMT -5
Judah vs. Bradley.... the better man will survive
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Post by mh2365 on Jul 18, 2010 14:54:15 GMT -5
I'd take Bradley but I think it would be interesting for a few rounds
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Post by billyc on Jul 18, 2010 15:15:07 GMT -5
I agree!
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Post by davemurphy on Jul 20, 2010 2:15:09 GMT -5
Bingo, I think it was a good win, but over a guy who was tailor made for Judah. We saw no clue as to how long Judah could've sustained the action, his big bugaboo, and it means little in terms of facing the elite again. Zab Judah can still beat a true Lightweight outside the Top 20. It buys him another mid-level challenge or possibly even a second feature on a HBO Card, but lets not read too much into it.
I think the thing to remember about that Casamayor-Santa Cruz fight is that: A) it was at Lightweight, where Santa Cruz is more suited B) Casamayor had been off more than a year and C) most importantly, he was the HUGE Favorite and appeared as though he hadn't given Santa Cruz more than ten minutes thought before stepping into the Ring. Not taking anything away from Santa Cruz, who administered a beatdown and got totally robbed, but fighting a aging Lightweight that thinks he's in for an easy night is different than fighting a Junior Welterweight who simply KNOWS he has to look good or it's all over.
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Post by billyc on Jul 20, 2010 7:42:01 GMT -5
Judah will fight one of the names in the 140 lb div...bradley, alexander or khan...you watch!
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Post by davemurphy on Jul 20, 2010 12:41:40 GMT -5
Judah will fight one of the names in the 140 lb div...bradley, alexander or khan...you watch! BC- It's hard to beleive we'd go to the same Well again and drink, but with the way these JWW's are overpricing themselves and avoiding each other, Judah makes an attractive option for any of the three. I was thinking he'd need one more proving fight, but maybe that was enough. Hell, King was trying to make Alexander-Judah BEFORE the Santa Cruz fight. My guess is that if Devon gets by Kotelnik on August 7th, then we might see Alexander-Zab in the late Fall.
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Post by tontb on Jul 20, 2010 13:00:12 GMT -5
Would love to see Khan in against Judah! Or just someone who's awkward and has a punch. Anyone.
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Post by billyc on Jul 20, 2010 13:19:43 GMT -5
I think Khan beats Judah...I know you Brits don't have faith in him, but Roach has helped him. He has a weak chin, but he has speed, power and now a little defense.
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Post by davemurphy on Jul 22, 2010 14:00:28 GMT -5
I think Khan beats Judah...I know you Brits don't have faith in him, but Roach has helped him. He has a weak chin, but he has speed, power and now a little defense. Plus, Roach knows Judah's weakness and that's his Gas Tank. Judah MIGHT be able to match Speed with Khan, and that's a big if, but Judah has to hit the Afterburners to keep it up, and will be spent by the 8th Round.
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Post by billyc on Jul 22, 2010 14:43:04 GMT -5
good point murph!
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