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Post by Daxx on Jul 22, 2010 22:18:49 GMT -5
I think Khan beats Judah...I know you Brits don't have faith in him, but Roach has helped him. He has a weak chin, but he has speed, power and now a little defense. Judahs problem is not stamina it is his mental toughness, when his mind starts to fade so does his body, it looks for any way out possible. I have yet to see Judah fade in a fight he is winning, let him lose a few rounds then all of a sudden the gas goes out of him. I think Kahn beats Judah but I think people are putting too much into Kahn right now, Kahn is not too far removed from a KO loss, he has yet to be in a tough fight since, lets see how Kahn reacts to a fight with lets say Bradley or Alexander before his praises are sung to highly
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Post by davemurphy on Jul 23, 2010 0:41:08 GMT -5
Judahs problem is not stamina it is his mental toughness, when his mind starts to fade so does his body, it looks for any way out possible. I have yet to see Judah fade in a fight he is winning, let him lose a few rounds then all of a sudden the gas goes out of him. I think Kahn beats Judah but I think people are putting too much into Kahn right now, Kahn is not too far removed from a KO loss, he has yet to be in a tough fight since, lets see how Kahn reacts to a fight with lets say Bradley or Alexander before his praises are sung to highly Interesting post, but it's kind of a what came first, the chicken or the egg? Seems to me that he losses steam just before he begins to lose the rounds and begins dropping the rounds because it was too fatiguing to keep up the pace he's set in order to keep up with one of the elite fighters.
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Post by billyc on Jul 23, 2010 4:07:36 GMT -5
Daxx...my man...glad to have you stop in Brother! Kahn has gotten a lot better with Roach...I think he is good, but time will tell! If he can hit, and not get hit......but he WILL have to fight a big name next I would think.
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Post by Davema on Jul 23, 2010 11:14:29 GMT -5
welcome Daxx..great to see you in here. You hit it right on the head. Zab's problem has always been between the ears. He is a front runner and and punk imo. His talent has been as good as anyone during his prime, but his mental focus is far behind the curve. As Ive said, he will always look good against B and C fighters, but once he steps up to A level, he loses everytime.
Punks and bullys do not like when people fight back..isnt that right Mike Tyson and Billy C ? lol
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Post by Daxx on Jul 23, 2010 11:26:14 GMT -5
welcome Daxx..great to see you in here. You hit it right on the head. Zab's problem has always been between the ears. He is a front runner and and punk imo. His talent has been as good as anyone during his prime, but his mental focus is far behind the curve. As Ive said, he will always look good against B and C fighters, but once he steps up to A level, he loses everytime. Punks and bullys do not like when people fight back..isnt that right Mike Tyson and Billy C ? lol Ha ha ha....Tyson is a Bully but my man Billy was nice enough to let Spinks off with a warning ..... Yeah your right Dave Judah has/was a good as anyone in their prime...Great speed, decent power, decent chin and just all around gifted boxer but soo as things start going the other way the mental breakdown would start....Waste of talent in my opinion....I was a big fan even after the loss to Kostya...Then his loss to Baldomir put the nail in the coffin as him being what his potential could have allowed...
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Post by Daxx on Jul 23, 2010 11:29:41 GMT -5
Daxx...my man...glad to have you stop in Brother! Kahn has gotten a lot better with Roach...I think he is good, but time will tell! If he can hit, and not get hit......but he WILL have to fight a big name next I would think. Billy Dave thanks for the welcome... I mean in truth we are not too sure how dentable Kahns chin is....I mean that fight could mhave just been a learning experience for him....I will compare it to my boy Lennox in his loss to McCall...Too much being full of Lennox not enough worrying about the man in front of him.....Hopefully like Lennox if it is the case Kahn will learn from the first time and not make the mistake again years later like Lewis did.....If his chin really is soft Roach knows it and will build him a style to protect it...But he needs a name like you mentioned on the resume to justify the hype surrounding him right now...Marco Antonio Barrera is not going to cut it.... Though I think a fight with him and Bradley would be the best fight at 140 right now
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Post by Davema on Jul 23, 2010 11:36:45 GMT -5
daxx, its good to see you in here for some fresh convo because now I dont have to read Billy C and Hansen argue about Mayweather and Pacquiao for 24/7
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Post by mh2365 on Jul 23, 2010 12:55:03 GMT -5
go back to drooling over you David Haye poster and leave Mayweather and PacMan to the big boys ....
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Post by billyc on Jul 23, 2010 14:13:59 GMT -5
What's Hansen doing in here? All Fayweather boys back to the other thread!
Daxx...great point and I agree with you.....but man, lets not get into your boy Lennox! LOL (top ten all time....I still laugh when I think of that!!!)
One word of advise Daxx....Hansen may be a total jerk when it comes to fayweather, but I would totally stay away from the DaveMa guy....he is bad news!
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Post by mh2365 on Jul 23, 2010 14:44:13 GMT -5
Lennox would beat Holmes just like Witherspoon did =)
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Post by Daxx on Jul 23, 2010 14:54:26 GMT -5
daxx, its good to see you in here for some fresh convo because now I dont have to read Billy C and Hansen argue about Mayweather and Pacquiao for 24/7 Sadly enough it seems to be the same old topic every where....Crazy part is Why does anyone even give a crap? I mean IF 2 MEN CAN NOT COME TO A SIMPLE AGREEMENT WHEN THERE IS OVER 25 MILLION TO BE MADE EACH THEN THE HELL WITH THEM....It is killing to image of boxing and I don't think enough people realize it... So yeah we have plenty of other things to talk about while Billy and Hansen argue about Floyd and Pacquiao....
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Post by Davema on Jul 23, 2010 14:54:54 GMT -5
you guys are f-ing killing me
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Post by mh2365 on Jul 23, 2010 15:42:31 GMT -5
I just like arguing with Billy .... we actually agree on most things ... like Holmes sucks and David Haye is a scared little man
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Post by Daxx on Jul 24, 2010 8:06:35 GMT -5
Judahs problem is not stamina it is his mental toughness, when his mind starts to fade so does his body, it looks for any way out possible. I have yet to see Judah fade in a fight he is winning, let him lose a few rounds then all of a sudden the gas goes out of him. I think Kahn beats Judah but I think people are putting too much into Kahn right now, Kahn is not too far removed from a KO loss, he has yet to be in a tough fight since, lets see how Kahn reacts to a fight with lets say Bradley or Alexander before his praises are sung to highly Interesting post, but it's kind of a what came first, the chicken or the egg? Seems to me that he losses steam just before he begins to lose the rounds and begins dropping the rounds because it was too fatiguing to keep up the pace he's set in order to keep up with one of the elite fighters. It ois more of a mental thing like I said...When Judah notices he is in for a long night he becomes mind bent and it plays on his stamina.....Discouragement, frustration etc all have an effect on the body...Though the body is really not tired it is giving the mind a way out so to speak......Funny thing is he and Spinks traded wins yet they both have the same problem...Mental concentration...When things are not going so well they seem to melt down...Though Judah has bigger meltdowns because he just falls apart all together
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Post by billyc on Jul 24, 2010 8:18:28 GMT -5
unless he is shooting craps with a crack whore...then he runs like haye....
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