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Post by mh2365 on Aug 3, 2010 17:11:59 GMT -5
shocker ... the Margarito fight is at a catch weight ... this is why guys who aren't waiting for Manny facials are pissed off at Arum and everyone involved in Manny's camp. Best part is it is at a catch weight yet the WBC stripped Sergio Martinez to make this crap a title fight. How can a fight be for the 154lb title when one fighter is being told he can't fight at 154?
All you nuthuggers can have Manny ... this is horribly pathetic ...
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Post by mh2365 on Aug 3, 2010 17:17:51 GMT -5
Just announced Manny vs. David Haye for his HW title ... Haye will have to make 160lbs for the fight though but if Manny beats the emaciated Haye the WBA will recognize Manny as the MW, SMW, LHW, CW and HW champ stripping everyone from their titles.
Haye just had the tapeworm surgically implanted ... also Haye has to tie one foot to a peg in the middle of the ring so he can't move around the ring, Arum thought the stipulations were perfectly fair.
When reached for a comment Freddie Roach said "I asked Manny if he knew what emaciated meant, and Manny got up on my knee and said no daddy. I was so proud of him I gave him another special vitamin."
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Post by jwilcox29 on Aug 3, 2010 18:56:06 GMT -5
If Floyd is so damn good and confident why is he going well out of his way to avoid PAC? I think Floyd saw what happened to hatton and cotto and became a little scared. He's been cautious ever since castillo proved he could be beat.
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Post by mh2365 on Aug 3, 2010 21:01:32 GMT -5
Same reason Pac is going out of his way to avoid JMM ... if Pac and his crew was so damn confident then why didn't they take the drug tests?
This is clearly a case of Bob Arum not wanting the fight .... plain and simple if anyone doesn't see that then they just aren't being objective.
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Post by duane on Aug 3, 2010 23:26:41 GMT -5
If Floyd is so damn good and confident why is he going well out of his way to avoid PAC? I think Floyd saw what happened to hatton and cotto and became a little scared. He's been cautious ever since castillo proved he could be beat. You don't seem like a Floyd fan, but I'll qoute him anyway.... "I never met a man scared to take a 25 million dollar drug test." Man, for 25 million (and to solidify my legacy) you could drug test me and both my kids... My wife too, but she might come up dirty though. We are at a point where you can't blindly blame everything on Floyd... It's getting kinda silly to do that after hearing Arum on conference call. C'mon people, wake up.
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Post by tontb on Aug 4, 2010 8:52:17 GMT -5
These fuckers are too rich! I'll fight anyone for 1000 pounds, never mind $25mill.
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Post by mh2365 on Aug 4, 2010 12:04:57 GMT -5
I just think it is horrific that they stripped Martinez just to give his title to the winner of a fight that the two boxers will not even be at the 154 lb limit for.
I refuse to buy any Manny PPV until there are no stipulations put on the other fighter to make it an easier fight for Manny. I don't think history will be very kind to his so called 8 "world" titles
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Post by davemurphy on Aug 4, 2010 18:55:02 GMT -5
I just think it is horrific that they stripped Martinez just to give his title to the winner of a fight that the two boxers will not even be at the 154 lb limit for. I refuse to buy any Manny PPV until there are no stipulations put on the other fighter to make it an easier fight for Manny. I don't think history will be very kind to his so called 8 "world" titles In an article on a site that Billy C. doesn't care for and I won't mention for fear of pissing him off, Mosley talks about beating Martinez after Mora and then luring Manny up to MW to try for a NINTH title, and my initial reaction was to take out my Manny Pacquaio Weight Division Decoder and try to figure out what the MW Limit of 160 translates to. I came up with 155 pounds, but I might be high. ;D
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Post by jwilcox29 on Aug 4, 2010 20:43:14 GMT -5
If Floyd is so damn good and confident why is he going well out of his way to avoid PAC? I think Floyd saw what happened to hatton and cotto and became a little scared. He's been cautious ever since castillo proved he could be beat. You don't seem like a Floyd fan, but I'll qoute him anyway.... "I never met a man scared to take a 25 million dollar drug test." Man, for 25 million (and to solidify my legacy) you could drug test me and both my kids... My wife too, but she might come up dirty though. We are at a point where you can't blindly blame everything on Floyd... It's getting kinda silly to do that after hearing Arum on conference call. C'mon people, wake up. who is Floyd to determine how the commision handles testing? Floyd isn't boxing he is a boxer. PAC was willing to give drug tests beforehand and after the fight but Floyd wanted unlimited and why? What's the point? This time around PAC said fine you get your drug testing I want your ass in the ring but floyds too busy playing charity bball down in Miami. So this is once again a situation where Floyd can choke on his own words
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Post by jwilcox29 on Aug 4, 2010 20:45:52 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong I don't hate Floyd I just think he's full of crap and doesn't wanna fight the best available at the time. Inside the ring he's amazing. Outside he's and idiot
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Post by mh2365 on Aug 5, 2010 0:31:47 GMT -5
Where did Pac say okay to drug testing? All we have is Arum's word and Arum was only negotiating with Ross Greenburg of HBO. According to Jeff Mayweather the last contact anybody close to Floyd had with Arum was in May and they still weren't coming off the drug testing.
What is funny is that everyone forgets that Floyd agreed to everything and the drug testing part only came up when Arum tried to add the $10 million dollar a pound penalty for Floyd being over 147 which to my knowledge he never has missed a 147 weight limit.
Despite what Billy says I am not a fan of Floyd's and was rooting for Shane in that fight ... I just don't blindly follow Bob Arum and don't think Manny is boxing.
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Post by billyc on Aug 5, 2010 3:48:31 GMT -5
JW...you hit it on the head....FLoyd is just not willing to fight the best. End of story! AND....he is NOT boxing! GREAT POINTS.
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Post by davemurphy on Aug 5, 2010 22:51:15 GMT -5
Mike- Let's not forget that Floyd didn't REALLY even want to fight that Mosley fight, but a Earthquake and Mosley's agreeing to the testing made it impossible for him to save face by avoiding it.
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