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Post by davemurphy on Aug 8, 2010 11:30:43 GMT -5
The Judging. Only King could arrange for three unknown guys with 0, 4, and 0 title fight experience to be judging a world title and what a stunner that they ALL had his Tavoris Cloud ahead 8-4, huh? What a coincidence!! You gotta wonder what the payment from DKP to IBF headquarters ran to have those guys in place? ;D Even funnier was watching Don King during the last round of Alexander-Kotelnik. While the HBO guys Kellerman and Popa (other than Harold, who reverted back to his Nunn-Scully Judging days and overrewarded "Ring Generalship") were talking about it's being really close, Don spends the Round making sure his Flags are sorted correctly
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Post by Daxx on Aug 8, 2010 12:39:54 GMT -5
You notice that too.....I was like "What did they do pickn these guys out of the crowd?"....King probably had some sort of raffle and the 3 winners were licensed and judged 30 min before the bouts....
You ever notice that when King stand there with his flags at times he looks like a crazy old man that they just put there to make things look good but then every now and again his expression will change to "Lets get this bullshit over with"...Only in America!!!!
He is a cheat, thief, schiester, low life, ex-con, thug, woman beater...and STILL the greatest boxing promoter outside of Tex Rickard to ever live
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Post by mh2365 on Aug 8, 2010 14:37:21 GMT -5
I had Cloud ahead 7-5 and Alexander ahead 9-3 ... so I didn't think the judging was too bad
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Post by Davema on Aug 8, 2010 16:00:02 GMT -5
i didnt think the juding was incorrect..everything was scored properly imo...
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Post by Daxx on Aug 8, 2010 16:25:23 GMT -5
I think your both crazy....No way Cloud beat Johnson 7-5...Alexander won but not 9-3...I gave Johnson the win...
He made Cloud fight HIS fight and he was not hurt as badly as made out rewatch the fight and you will rethink it...Whenever Johnson threw even small pitty pat shots he stopped Cloud in his tracks....IF Johnson and I stress IF Johnson was in better shape he would have stopped Cloud...Johnson gained 19lbs in 24hrs and at 41? That speaks volumes
Alexander only won because he built up an early lead...Once Kotelnik started to land Alexander started to panic....He looked like a scared little baby in the corner after the cut....
I had Johnson up by 2 and Alexander ahead 7-5
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Post by mh2365 on Aug 8, 2010 17:05:25 GMT -5
Wow you watched a completely different fight than was on TV ... I'm not sure Johnson's mom had him up by 2 in that fight. I didn't see Cloud hurt once in that fight ... if he hadn't taken two rounds off he wins even more convincingly.
I think the Alexander fight was open to interpretation ... I can see anywhere from 10-2 to 7-5 for Alexander ... so I really didn't have any problems with 8-4.
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Post by Daxx on Aug 8, 2010 19:31:27 GMT -5
Wow you watched a completely different fight than was on TV ... I'm not sure Johnson's mom had him up by 2 in that fight. I didn't see Cloud hurt once in that fight ... if he hadn't taken two rounds off he wins even more convincingly. I think the Alexander fight was open to interpretation ... I can see anywhere from 10-2 to 7-5 for Alexander ... so I really didn't have any problems with 8-4. You didn't see Cloud hurt once during the fight? You must be jopking because he was rocked in the 2nd...ANY time Johnson threw Cloud froze up...not always hurt just froze up...Even the commentators were talking about Johnson going to get short end.... I did not say johnson dominated but IMO he won by 2...though it could have gone either way but by no more then 2..... Say what you want about the Alexander fight...Are you one of those guys who go by what the announce team says?....AK was hurting Alexander not KO hurt but had him shook like a kid on Halloween....
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Post by mh2365 on Aug 9, 2010 0:35:46 GMT -5
okay Cloud was hurt in the second ... but Johnson was rocked about 6 times in that fight ... sorry man but Cloud won that fight no matter how you slice it.
Yeah just because I don't agree with you I listen to the announcers ... if I did listen to the announcers for the Alexander fight I would of had it close or AK slightly ahead like you did because that is what Papa and Kellerman were saying ... so you saying I was listening to the announcers is pretty funny.
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Post by billyc on Aug 9, 2010 4:13:30 GMT -5
The problem with judges is that they do not put the criteria in the SAME order. If one like harder punches...they put that on top....volume, that on top, etc....I am going to talk about it on today's show...to me....the scoring overall for ALL the fights this weekend SUCKED! Johnson got a draw at LEAST. Alexander didn't land 1/2 the fly punches he threw and Martin won all out!
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Post by Daxx on Aug 9, 2010 9:45:54 GMT -5
The problem with judges is that they do not put the criteria in the SAME order. If one like harder punches...they put that on top....volume, that on top, etc....I am going to talk about it on today's show...to me....the scoring overall for ALL the fights this weekend SUCKED! Johnson got a draw at LEAST. Alexander didn't land 1/2 the fly punches he threw and Martin won all out! Well said....
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Post by Daxx on Aug 9, 2010 9:48:16 GMT -5
okay Cloud was hurt in the second ... but Johnson was rocked about 6 times in that fight ... sorry man but Cloud won that fight no matter how you slice it. Yeah just because I don't agree with you I listen to the announcers ... if I did listen to the announcers for the Alexander fight I would of had it close or AK slightly ahead like you did because that is what Papa and Kellerman were saying ... so you saying I was listening to the announcers is pretty funny. Now its well OK Cloud was hurt in the second?...C'Mon man tell me that any time Johnson was throwing Cloud did not freeze up? That does not mean hurt it mean he was just taking it...Look at round 9.... Listen if you watched the fights you would know these thingsa...If you watched the fights and you still believe the stuff your typing your going to have to find someone else to debate with because your talking nonsense
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Post by tontb on Aug 9, 2010 9:51:42 GMT -5
Come on boys, play nicely now :-)
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Post by Daxx on Aug 9, 2010 9:56:00 GMT -5
Come on boys, play nicely now :-)
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Post by mh2365 on Aug 9, 2010 14:19:37 GMT -5
okay Cloud was hurt in the second ... but Johnson was rocked about 6 times in that fight ... sorry man but Cloud won that fight no matter how you slice it. Yeah just because I don't agree with you I listen to the announcers ... if I did listen to the announcers for the Alexander fight I would of had it close or AK slightly ahead like you did because that is what Papa and Kellerman were saying ... so you saying I was listening to the announcers is pretty funny. Now its well OK Cloud was hurt in the second?...C'Mon man tell me that any time Johnson was throwing Cloud did not freeze up? That does not mean hurt it mean he was just taking it...Look at round 9.... Listen if you watched the fights you would know these thingsa...If you watched the fights and you still believe the stuff your typing your going to have to find someone else to debate with because your talking nonsense Yeah because I don't agree with you I must be talking nonsense ... this is a typical boxing board post ... there goes the neighborhood.
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Post by Daxx on Aug 9, 2010 15:57:43 GMT -5
Now its well OK Cloud was hurt in the second?...C'Mon man tell me that any time Johnson was throwing Cloud did not freeze up? That does not mean hurt it mean he was just taking it...Look at round 9.... Listen if you watched the fights you would know these thingsa...If you watched the fights and you still believe the stuff your typing your going to have to find someone else to debate with because your talking nonsense Yeah because I don't agree with you I must be talking nonsense ... this is a typical boxing board post ... there goes the neighborhood.
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