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Post by davemurphy on Aug 28, 2010 9:54:19 GMT -5
Duane-
Yeah, whether they decide to finish up the third stage and then still do the semi-finals or simply call this the semi-finals, the thing that EVERYBODY seems to agree on is sending Allan Green on his way!!!!
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Post by billyc on Aug 29, 2010 13:12:46 GMT -5
I think it is pretty much official. Green is out, but will get some CASH to be quiet....
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Post by davemurphy on Aug 30, 2010 10:08:39 GMT -5
I think it is pretty much official. Green is out, but will get some CASH to be quiet.... Billy- I really wish it WAS that, Cash in return for being quiet.....as in being totally silent and just simply going away  God help us the next time Green is featured on an ESPN fight and we get to hear about how lucky Kessler was to be sparred the KO loss. If only he could fight like he talked, huh? |
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Post by mh2365 on Aug 30, 2010 16:50:13 GMT -5
Green is a world class loser ...
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Post by davemurphy on Sept 2, 2010 10:18:34 GMT -5
Green is a world class loser ... Did anybody see this new Episode 7 of Fight Camp 360 last night? I HAVE NO IDEA why they started it off with Allan Green, since HOPEFULLY he's going to be gone. I see he's trying to put the blame on John David Jackson and has brought in a new Trainer named Chill. I'm sure that will pay huge dividends.....on his next ESPN fight. He did appear a bit humble at one point around the 18:05 mark, and I enjoyed Carl Froch's Mom talking about Green right after that at the 20:10 mark. Btw, it's kind of strange at the end when Kessler reads the Press Announcement of his Withdrawal, and then also Drives himself to the Press Conference. Not saying the injury isn't legit, but it seems strange that he can read and Drive. |
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Post by Daxx on Sept 2, 2010 10:42:58 GMT -5
Green is a world class loser ... Did anybody see this new Episode 7 of Fight Camp 360 last night? I HAVE NO IDEA why they started it off with Allan Green, since HOPEFULLY he's going to be gone. I see he's trying to put the blame on John David Jackson and has brought in a new Trainer named Chill. I'm sure that will pay huge dividends.....on his next ESPN fight. He did appear a bit humble at one point around the 18:05 mark, and I enjoyed Carl Froch's Mom talking about Green right after that at the 20:10 mark. Btw, it's kind of strange at the end when Kessler reads the Press Announcement of his Withdrawal, and then also Drives himself to the Press Conference. Not saying the injury isn't legit, but it seems strange that he can read and Drive. He has eye problems not blind  ....There is a difference between being able to do everydfay things and being able to take punches to a damaged part of the body...If you remember earlier in the episode Kesslers trainers was talking about how after Kess was hit during sparring his eye was bothering him.... Nothing certainly not the SS is worth going blind over |
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Post by davemurphy on Sept 3, 2010 6:18:21 GMT -5
sports.sho.com/fight-camp-360.htmlDid anybody see this new Episode 7 of Fight Camp 360 last night? I HAVE NO IDEA why they started it off with Allan Green, since HOPEFULLY he's going to be gone. I see he's trying to put the blame on John David Jackson and has brought in a new Trainer named Chill. I'm sure that will pay huge dividends.....on his next ESPN fight. He did appear a bit humble at one point around the 18:05 mark, and I enjoyed Carl Froch's Mom talking about Green right after that at the 20:10 mark. Btw, it's kind of strange at the end when Kessler reads the Press Announcement of his Withdrawal, and then also Drives himself to the Press Conference. Not saying the injury isn't legit, but it seems strange that he can read and Drive. He has eye problems not blind ....There is a difference between being able to do everydfay things and being able to take punches to a damaged part of the body...If you remember earlier in the episode Kesslers trainers was talking about how after Kess was hit during sparring his eye was bothering him.... Nothing certainly not the SS is worth going blind over No, I wasn't questioning the injury, I was questioning whether he should be driving a Car. I shouldn't have mentioned reading the press release, which he could do with his one good eye, but if he has a blind spot in his vision, I'm not sure about getting behind the wheel. Your right though, big difference between every day life and depending on seeing punches. |
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Post by Daxx on Sept 3, 2010 11:17:50 GMT -5
No I did not mean that you were questioning the injury sorry if it came off that way I was more or less saying that even in a situation like you stated there is a big difference....I don't believe this is an injury to the point where Mikkel is Vazquez type hurt because Israel had some serious serious damage to his eye and look what happened to him because of having delayed doing what needs to have been done for all intense purposes Vazquez is done as a top level fighter.....If I am not mistaken it is the Oblique muscle that is injured and that from what again I understand is the ability to move the eye in certain directions depending on which eye muscles are effected since there are many it would depend in if he will be able to look right left up down etc....I think it also has the tendency to pull the eye toward the nose giving the double vision effect.....Like I said I am not certain on how it works but from past fighters with similar injuries I read about have had this problem...SRL besides his other eye issues suffered.....In the end what could happen is Kessler's eye remains either crossed toward the nose or stationary....But I don't think it actually takes away from the vision itself....I am sure I am confused on some of the info but more or less that is the issue
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Post by mh2365 on Sept 3, 2010 12:40:58 GMT -5
I get the feeling the Super Six is done .... Ward and Dirrell have agreed to almost nothing on their fight ... I can see the American's pulling out of it.
Ward might see $$$ in a fight with Bute, esp. now that Pascal is going to fight Hopkins instead of Bute.
If they don't finish it then it is a disaster and we won't see another one like it.
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Post by davemurphy on Sept 3, 2010 18:39:47 GMT -5
No I did not mean that you were questioning the injury sorry if it came off that way I was more or less saying that even in a situation like you stated there is a big difference....I don't believe this is an injury to the point where Mikkel is Vazquez type hurt because Israel had some serious serious damage to his eye and look what happened to him because of having delayed doing what needs to have been done for all intense purposes Vazquez is done as a top level fighter.....If I am not mistaken it is the Oblique muscle that is injured and that from what again I understand is the ability to move the eye in certain directions depending on which eye muscles are effected since there are many it would depend in if he will be able to look right left up down etc....I think it also has the tendency to pull the eye toward the nose giving the double vision effect.....Like I said I am not certain on how it works but from past fighters with similar injuries I read about have had this problem...SRL besides his other eye issues suffered.....In the end what could happen is Kessler's eye remains either crossed toward the nose or stationary....But I don't think it actually takes away from the vision itself....I am sure I am confused on some of the info but more or less that is the issue Yeah, I don't pretend to know exactly what type of eye injury it is, but just watching him on the end of the Showtime program then I think you might be right and that it could be just a muscle problem, especially given that they think it will heal on it's own without the need for surgery. When I think of a fighter seeing spots, then of course I instantly think detached Retina, but doublevision then maybe eyedrops and rest are enough. |
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Post by davemurphy on Sept 3, 2010 18:48:57 GMT -5
I get the feeling the Super Six is done .... Ward and Dirrell have agreed to almost nothing on their fight ... I can see the American's pulling out of it. Ward might see $$$ in a fight with Bute, esp. now that Pascal is going to fight Hopkins instead of Bute. If they don't finish it then it is a disaster and we won't see another one like it. I don't know if it's done, but I sure as hell think they need to take my advice and declare these next two fights the Semi-Finals and be done with it with just one more additional fight. With Ward and Dirrell in apparent disagreement, I'd push them to simply fight on the Monaco Card October 2nd. Right now, I think the problem is that neither guy sells tickets wherever they take it. Put it on as part of a doubleheader where you KNOW there's going to be Crowd. I disagree with Mike that Ward can simply Pull Out and head to Bute, I think there would be genuine fall out/negative reaction from the fans if he chose that route. There would be a price to paid for being the "bad guy" in a Super Six Breakup IMO, even if it DID give us a Ward-Bute fight we really want to see. |
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God help us the next time Green is featured on an ESPN fight and we get to hear about how lucky Kessler was to be sparred the KO loss. If only he could fight like he talked, huh?
....There is a difference between being able to do everydfay things and being able to take punches to a damaged part of the body...If you remember earlier in the episode Kesslers trainers was talking about how after Kess was hit during sparring his eye was bothering him....