Sat 9/11 fights....

[Daxx]

Well I know Billy was at a local show in Albanyu so not sure if he has seen any of the big fights but...

WTF was up with Peterson...He self destructed didn't he? I mean he could have beaten that kid easily...When he jabbed in the early rounds he could not miss then after 2 he stopped cold and tried to trade...I said to my wife in the 3rd that Peterson is gonna get stopped...You could tell he was eating those shots and they hurt even the ones he was catching withb his gloves...I thoughgt for a minute he would be ok because he wass rolling with punches but no and the ones he gave Rios were just having little to no effect......So while he did not get KO'd he did get dropped and wobbled hard then did a scumbag move by getting himself DQ'd with the constant low blows....

Gamboa what is the deal with him?....He looked a bit too laxed at times and he to me looked a bit tired throughout the fight.....I like this kid as a fighter I mean how could you not but still he has much improving to do or he will be another fighter who ends up on the bad side of a KO and IMO his career will never be the same again...His chin is suspect as is.....Gamboa though is talented enough where he can make the improvements with little effort he just needs to apply them.....Right now though a fight with JuanMa would not be the best thing for him even in the nest year.....

Wlad just once again showed that he is too much for anyone...I know Peter is not exactly the scourge of the HW divisiopn but he is strong and he trained his ass off for that fight....Wlad shoed last night he can be a bully on the inside if he wanted with a stronger fighter...I think Peter is naturally stronger and Wlad layed on him inside and pushed him arpound...That nbtells me Wlad has come full circle and is reaching his peak....

Like LL he has done so since he has been with Manny...Lennox best years skill wise were from 33-36.....Wlad is 33 and he is better then ever.....If for fantasy sake he was to face his brother I would pick him for sure...2 years ago I could not say that.....

Good night of fights all in all in the opp of an observer...Anyone else like last nights action?

Just to mention it and I don't know why but that Rios is an annoying SOB and when he called out the big names saying who ever is next I hope somepone comes soon and shuts him up...The constant high pitched scream on celebration was out right stupid.....BUT that is just a personal opp ha ha

[tontb]

I was happy with Sam Peters early efforts against Wlad, but as you pointed out Wlad is a much more confident and supreme fighter than 5 years ago. Eventually it went the way they all do in a Klitschko fight.

Think after he retires, thats when Wlad will earn his plaudits. He smokes Haye for sure, I've seen the light!

[davemurphy]

Daxx-
I was pretty impressed with Brandon Rios, I think Peterson actually DID try to use his boxing skills and find a way out of the trenches, but Rios proved too strong. I didn't like some things with regard to Rios' Defense, he's going to face harder punchers than Peterson and he simply can't take clean shots from them like he did with Anthony, but considering the experience edge in Petersons favor, I thought Rios looked good. Now if they don't go immediately matching him with Juan Manuel Marquez or something stupid, they might have a pretty good fighter on their hands. He still needs some major work on the defensive end, but you gotta like the heart and aggression. A Made for TV Fighter, for sure.

[Daxx]

Well said Dave.....Yes if he tried to stay and take shots like that from harder punchers he would have been out of there....I know Peterson DID try to uise his boxing early but he just stopped for no reason...Before the fight got into the trenches really? I don't know why...maybe Bravado he wanted to prove he could stand in there?,,,,,He did OK at first but then when things started to not go in his favor he seemed like he could not stay out of the inside if he wanted too....When he was jabbing he could not miss...On the outside he landed almost at will but the inside he was not strong enough....The low Blows were a disgrace

And Yes Rios is a made for TV fighter for sure and can provide some good fights but looking form last night if it is not inside close up he has nothing to offer especially in the next level....J.Diaz a few yearsd ago would have been a good fighter for Rios on his first shot at a title...Diaz loves that fighting close

[davemurphy]

Sept 12, 2010 10:28:56 GMT -5 tontb said:

I was happy with Sam Peters early efforts against Wlad, but as you pointed out Wlad is a much more confident and supreme fighter than 5 years ago. Eventually it went the way they all do in a Klitschko fight.

Think after he retires, thats when Wlad will earn his plaudits. Haye smokes Haye for sure, I've seen the light!

Ton-
I really missed the boat AGAIN in thinking Peter might be able to land something of significance and make the fight interesting. I had picked Klistchko, but I was thinking that he might actually have to pick himself up off the canvas at some point when a wild Peter left hook landed flush. It simply never did.

One of Vlad's best performances, he kept the space the entire fight, showed the good hard jab, and had Peter flailing away at something that wasn't there. It's hard to see David Haye getting inside on him. Haye is fast and no Sam Peter, but I also don't think he'd do both things you need to do: Slip the Jab AND avoid the Right hand, and I can't see him reaching Wlad's chin anymore than all the other guys his height do.

As usual, I'm left with an empty feeling in that there's nothing to look forward to on Wlad's end of things. Vitali's getting old and there's some hope there, but I don't see Wlad Klitschko losing in the next 3, 4 years if he choses to fight that long.

[tontb]

Sept 12, 2010 11:04:39 GMT -5 davemurphy said:

Sept 12, 2010 10:28:56 GMT -5 tontb said:

I was happy with Sam Peters early efforts against Wlad, but as you pointed out Wlad is a much more confident and supreme fighter than 5 years ago. Eventually it went the way they all do in a Klitschko fight.

Think after he retires, thats when Wlad will earn his plaudits. Haye smokes Haye for sure, I've seen the light!

Ton-
I really missed the boat AGAIN in thinking Peter might be able to land something of significance and make the fight interesting. I had picked Klistchko, but I was thinking that he might actually have to pick himself up off the canvas at some point when a wild Peter left hook landed flush. It simply never did.

I was truely hoping for the same!! And given the way Peter started, all out swinging it seemed he was up for business. Unfortunately when nothing was landing on Wlad after the 3rd round, it was a matter of time before Peter tired and his face blew up like a balloon.

[davemurphy]

Sept 12, 2010 11:30:01 GMT -5 tontb said:

Sept 12, 2010 11:04:39 GMT -5 davemurphy said:

Ton-
I really missed the boat AGAIN in thinking Peter might be able to land something of significance and make the fight interesting. I had picked Klistchko, but I was thinking that he might actually have to pick himself up off the canvas at some point when a wild Peter left hook landed flush. It simply never did.

I was truely hoping for the same!! And given the way Peter started, all out swinging it seemed he was up for business. Unfortunately when nothing was landing on Wlad after the 3rd round, it was a matter of time before Peter tired and his face blew up like a balloon.

Yeah, I was stunned at how far short the punches were flying, and then when you saw Peter paw at his Eye then you KNEW it was a matter of time.

[mh2365]

Weird I was pretty sure I posted in here ...

anyways I was surprised that no one was picking Rios ... I have seen both fight on several occasions and I thought Rios was a lock.

[Daxx]

Sept 13, 2010 10:41:55 GMT -5 davemurphy said:

Sept 12, 2010 11:30:01 GMT -5 tontb said:

I was truely hoping for the same!! And given the way Peter started, all out swinging it seemed he was up for business. Unfortunately when nothing was landing on Wlad after the 3rd round, it was a matter of time before Peter tired and his face blew up like a balloon.

Yeah, I was stunned at how far short the punches were flying, and then when you saw Peter paw at his Eye then you KNEW it was a matter of time.

For sure...soon as the face started to swell all I thought was here goes Vitali/Peter all over again....Pete not one who deals with being hurt or being on the recieveing end well he just falls apart and becomes a punching bag....