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Post by billyc on Oct 10, 2011 15:55:02 GMT -5
What would you rather see....Champions fight only the BEST opposition once a year or once every 18 months, or have them fight 4 times per year against three marginal opponents and one top ranked fighter?
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Post by Daxx on Oct 11, 2011 19:48:38 GMT -5
The latter of the two because eventually it will force the fight to haooen against the BEST guy available through process of elimination
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Post by billyc on Oct 12, 2011 3:26:09 GMT -5
I think if the fighters WERE more active...not only would be get to "know them" better, it would make THEM better. I too would much rather see more than less.....like the OLD days. Older than me days!
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Post by Daxx on Oct 12, 2011 7:06:38 GMT -5
OHHH You big kidder...Like there is such thing as an older than you days!!!
Seriously though...I would like to see guys fight 2 or 3 times a year even if 2 of the 3 were against fringe guys...would prefer all 3 against top guys in their weight class but still...
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Post by billyc on Oct 12, 2011 16:52:03 GMT -5
I'm thinking more like 8 or 9 times a year, but fight THREE really good ones...
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Post by davemurphy on Oct 13, 2011 6:55:33 GMT -5
I'm fine with only three fights a year, as long as it's one major mega-fight, one being at least a top ten contender, and then one on the easier side against ESPN/Top 20 variety. That was kind of the schedule that Larry Holmes maintained during his 7.5 years as Champ. But just as long as they're making an appearance of some kind every four months.....this Mayweather disappearing for 16 months or Pac unable to "rush" back into the Ring without 8-9 months off in-between fights is total nonsense.
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Post by billyc on Oct 14, 2011 8:13:20 GMT -5
I think they should fight at least every other month....unless they had an injury of some kind. I STILL would much rather see pros fight one a month....but I guess those days are gone forever....(I mean with top fighters...not kids on the way up)
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Post by davemurphy on Oct 17, 2011 0:30:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd never argue against them fighting MORE than that, BC. My Three times a year is more of the "LEAST I'd expect of a Champion" and not a maximum. If a guy can't put his Belt on the line three times a year, then they're not of much use to me.
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Post by billyc on Oct 17, 2011 3:30:33 GMT -5
I would think they would at least fight three times too...but even that at times we are jumping for joy when they do. The bottom line...its a shame!
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Post by davemurphy on Oct 20, 2011 17:11:47 GMT -5
I would think they would at least fight three times too...but even that at times we are jumping for joy when they do. The bottom line...its a shame! Yeah, I think we need to ask ourselves what's the reason for that? For me, I've never actually understood how being a Champion and inactive is beneficial in any way, for example Guillermo Jones having a CW title for three years and making one defense. |
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Post by billyc on Oct 24, 2011 3:50:40 GMT -5
Back in the day....the STATUS of a World Champion meant something...especially a HW World Champ. They didn't fight as much so they could make money AS a champ. NOW..there are so many champions...there isn't value...except to fight on TV, so once they win "a belt" they wait for payday fights....which they pick and choose from. All in all...BAD.
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Post by davemurphy on Oct 26, 2011 14:59:05 GMT -5
Back in the day....the STATUS of a World Champion meant something...especially a HW World Champ. They didn't fight as much so they could make money AS a champ. NOW..there are so many champions...there isn't value...except to fight on TV, so once they win "a belt" they wait for payday fights....which they pick and choose from. All in all...BAD. Yeah, I guess your right. Somebody like K-9 Bunderage or Guillermo Jones wins one of the four titles and thinks they're TV-worthy and talks about fighting names beyond their reach, and finally has to break down after a year or so and fight less than stellar mandatories OFF-TV and out of the money. |
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Post by billyc on Oct 26, 2011 17:06:14 GMT -5
yep!!
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Post by Londonerryan on Dec 12, 2011 11:22:57 GMT -5
I don't know what is best to be fair.
Marco Huck fights around 4 times a year and his record is pretty solid. In the last 4 years he has fought 3 World class opponents in Steve Cunningham, Denis Lebedev and Ola Afolabi. He has also fought 13 mandatory defences. So in 4 years he's fought 16 times. That is a LOT of fights in this day and age.
Huck is one of the busiest World class fighters out there but it does take him up to 18 months to fight the best available fighter. He does keep busy though.
I prefer Huck to somebody like Mayweather though who only fights once a year.
Of course, the best scenario would be Carl Froch or Andre Ward who fight twice a year and against the best available opponents but then they have been competing in the Super 6.
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Post by davemurphy on Dec 14, 2011 21:09:53 GMT -5
I don't know what is best to be fair. Marco Huck fights around 4 times a year and his record is pretty solid. In the last 4 years he has fought 3 World class opponents in Steve Cunningham, Denis Lebedev and Ola Afolabi. He has also fought 13 mandatory defences. So in 4 years he's fought 16 times. That is a LOT of fights in this day and age. Huck is one of the busiest World class fighters out there but it does take him up to 18 months to fight the best available fighter. He does keep busy though. I prefer Huck to somebody like Mayweather though who only fights once a year. Of course, the best scenario would be Carl Froch or Andre Ward who fight twice a year and against the best available opponents but then they have been competing in the Super 6. Good post, Ryan. It's not always the NUMBER of fights. A lot of the most recent German World Champs have fought FREQUENTLY but on the otherhand still been guilty of ducking their REAL challenges. As BC stated earlier in the thread, I don't think it's asking a lot for a World Champion to defend 3 times a year, and in the meantime be meeting the top possible challenger along the way. |
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