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Post by Daxx on Oct 19, 2011 22:28:02 GMT -5
The division king is facing Jean Marc Mormec and now the guy many are thinking might be the future should his hands hold up...Denis Lebedev is fighting James "Please keep me the FK out of a cage with Randy Coture" Toney?.......Whats next?.....VK defends against Jorge Arce while after disposing of Mormeck WK takes on Dewey Bozella?
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Post by billyc on Oct 20, 2011 7:24:09 GMT -5
Fighters don't want real fights anymore...its like I say...Everyone wants to fight, but no one wants to fight anybody.
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Post by davemurphy on Oct 20, 2011 17:38:58 GMT -5
Part of our problem is we're still stuck in the 90's as far as who still has some lasting fame. Most of the names that keep getting these recurring undeserved opportunities are throwbacks to the Network TV days. Guys like Toney for example, it's been a billion years since he was on ABC fighting the likes of Dave Tiberi, Reggie Johnson, etcs, but those were seen by Millions, just as Evanders fights were, and so on and so forth. Nobody knows these Eastern European Names in the rankings and worst of all they don't seem to really mind being big fish in small ponds and waiting for title shots like waiting for their orders at a Deli. Just keep fighting nondescript opposition and wait for your name to be called, it's why I seldom concern myself with the HW division anymore, give me Bantamweights any day instead.......
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Post by billyc on Oct 24, 2011 3:54:41 GMT -5
I've got an idea....how about the promoters actually PROMOTING them? It COULD work! I know it sounds crazy....but if they could only promote....and while we are at it...the fighters should fight too! Promotors Promote, Fighters fight, managers manage, etc, etc, etc.
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Post by dallen on Oct 24, 2011 13:52:35 GMT -5
I've got an idea....how about the promoters actually PROMOTING them? It COULD work! I know it sounds crazy....but if they could only promote....and while we are at it...the fighters should fight too! Promotors Promote, Fighters fight, managers manage, etc, etc, etc. Next BillyC you will want to live in a perfect World,its not going to happen my friend.Boxing is going down the winding road to oblivion if it dont start to clean up its act.We moan about Promoter dont promote,fighters dont fight,managers dont manage.But if this was all put right,then you have to clean up the scoring system,which is giving us farcical decisions on a regular basis. |
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Post by billyc on Oct 24, 2011 17:27:38 GMT -5
I agree DA...but we need to look at it step by step. The Judges AND referees have become puppets to the Promoter, Commissions and Sanctioning bodies.
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Post by davemurphy on Oct 25, 2011 21:28:06 GMT -5
I've got an idea....how about the promoters actually PROMOTING them? It COULD work! I know it sounds crazy....but if they could only promote....and while we are at it...the fighters should fight too! Promotors Promote, Fighters fight, managers manage, etc, etc, etc. Bizzare concept, everyone doing their jobs. I'm sure your idea won't catch on, it makes too damn much sense! |
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Post by davemurphy on Oct 25, 2011 21:32:00 GMT -5
I agree DA...but we need to look at it step by step. The Judges AND referees have become puppets to the Promoter, Commissions and Sanctioning bodies. What gets me is that they do so for cheap. The orgs don't even pick up the tab for these conventions they hold around the world, they make the Refs and Judges pay their own way. They need to do like every other sport and make the assignment of officials independent of those with a active interest in the result. |
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Post by billyc on Oct 26, 2011 3:54:35 GMT -5
The conventions are the biggest scam going! They force promotors, fighters, etc to attend to "help them" when all they want is their money! I DO give them all (WBC, WBO, WBA, IBF) credit...they make money at EVERY turn! They are almost as good at it as Brophy is for the IBHOF!
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Post by davemurphy on Oct 26, 2011 15:13:30 GMT -5
The conventions are the biggest scam going! They force promotors, fighters, etc to attend to "help them" when all they want is their money! I DO give them all (WBC, WBO, WBA, IBF) credit...they make money at EVERY turn! They are almost as good at it as Brophy is for the IBHOF! When my Buddy Steve Epstein told me that the Refs and Judges had to pay Annual Dues to the Org in the hope that they MIGHT get enough assignments to come out ahead, I had to laugh. They get it coming and going, and what do they provide? In return for 3% from the Fighters, the money they get from the Promoters not just from the fights but from rigging their ratings, the Refs and Judges being on the hook and begging them to get work........yes, for all that, they provide a piece of leather with some ornaments on it. Amazing! |
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Post by billyc on Oct 26, 2011 17:09:18 GMT -5
What do I need to put in this hand that will make that hand sign my name on the paper to get the gig
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Post by davemurphy on Oct 27, 2011 17:16:41 GMT -5
What do I need to put in this hand that will make that hand sign my name on the paper to get the gig A wonderful Sport!!  |
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