Post by davemurphy on Dec 8, 2011 0:20:24 GMT -5
On today's show, Billy C. was talking about Marlon Starlings HOF Chances and I brought up the difficulty in getting one of the coveted 45 ballot slots, much less being one of the 3 top vote-getters. I thought it might make a good thread to post up the 45 names and see where Marlon might slide in.
My #1 spot would be Sven Ottke, since IMO he didn't accomplish a whole hell of a lot other than remaining undefeated and ducking Joe Calzaghe, the only real threat he ever had at 168. I also think that after all these years on the ballot, it might be time to give Al Hostak a rest, he was a great fighter but he's been on there forever and he's simply not getting the votes, it's NOT going to happen for him. Dave Sands and Ken Overlin appear to be other "dead wood" candidates taking up space while never coming close to getting in.
I'm all for a system like Baseball has, any year you don't get 5% of the vote then your dropped and if you don't get 75% after 15 tries, then your left to the Veterans Committee to decide. This having the same names strike out while others don't even get a pitch to swing at is getting tiresome. Not just for Marlon that BC wants, but also for my personal favorite Lupe Pintor, both are better than many already in the Hall, they just don't have the political connections to get on the damn ballot. Here were this years 45, and since the List is kind of like the Supreme Court in that appointments are for life (I've never seen anyone removed from the ballot without getting inducted), then I imagine 42 of these names (minus only Hearns, Too Sharp, and Cocoa Kid) will be back again NEXT YEAR:
1. Georgie Abrams
2. Horacio Acavallo
3. Joey Archer
4. Jose Becerra
5. Johnny Bratton
6. Jimmy Carruthers
7. Donald Curry
8. Hiroyuki Ebihara
9. Tommy Farr
10. Tiger Jack Fox
11. Ceferino Garcia
12. Betulio Gonzalez
13. Yoko Gushiken
14. Naseem Hamed
15. Tommy Hearns
16. Carlos Hernandez
17. Rafael Herrera
18. Al Hostak
19. Harry Jeffra
20. Mark Johnson
21. Peter Kane
22. Cocoa Kid
23. Pone Kingpetch
24. Santos Laciar
25. Tippy Larkin
26. Jose Legra
27. Miguel Lora
28. Raul Macias
29. Ernesto Marcel
30. Dariusz Michalczewski
31. Freddie Mills
32. Rinty Monaghan
33. Masao Ohba
34. Sven Ottke
35. Ken Overlin
36. Gustave Roth
37. Lou Salica
38. Dave Sands
39. Petey Salica
40, Samuel Serrano
41. Yoshio Shirai
42. Kid Tunero
43. Wilfredo Vazquez
44. Myung Woo Yuh
45. Hilario Zapata
My #1 spot would be Sven Ottke, since IMO he didn't accomplish a whole hell of a lot other than remaining undefeated and ducking Joe Calzaghe, the only real threat he ever had at 168. I also think that after all these years on the ballot, it might be time to give Al Hostak a rest, he was a great fighter but he's been on there forever and he's simply not getting the votes, it's NOT going to happen for him. Dave Sands and Ken Overlin appear to be other "dead wood" candidates taking up space while never coming close to getting in.
I'm all for a system like Baseball has, any year you don't get 5% of the vote then your dropped and if you don't get 75% after 15 tries, then your left to the Veterans Committee to decide. This having the same names strike out while others don't even get a pitch to swing at is getting tiresome. Not just for Marlon that BC wants, but also for my personal favorite Lupe Pintor, both are better than many already in the Hall, they just don't have the political connections to get on the damn ballot. Here were this years 45, and since the List is kind of like the Supreme Court in that appointments are for life (I've never seen anyone removed from the ballot without getting inducted), then I imagine 42 of these names (minus only Hearns, Too Sharp, and Cocoa Kid) will be back again NEXT YEAR:
1. Georgie Abrams
2. Horacio Acavallo
3. Joey Archer
4. Jose Becerra
5. Johnny Bratton
6. Jimmy Carruthers
7. Donald Curry
8. Hiroyuki Ebihara
9. Tommy Farr
10. Tiger Jack Fox
11. Ceferino Garcia
12. Betulio Gonzalez
13. Yoko Gushiken
14. Naseem Hamed
15. Tommy Hearns
16. Carlos Hernandez
17. Rafael Herrera
18. Al Hostak
19. Harry Jeffra
20. Mark Johnson
21. Peter Kane
22. Cocoa Kid
23. Pone Kingpetch
24. Santos Laciar
25. Tippy Larkin
26. Jose Legra
27. Miguel Lora
28. Raul Macias
29. Ernesto Marcel
30. Dariusz Michalczewski
31. Freddie Mills
32. Rinty Monaghan
33. Masao Ohba
34. Sven Ottke
35. Ken Overlin
36. Gustave Roth
37. Lou Salica
38. Dave Sands
39. Petey Salica
40, Samuel Serrano
41. Yoshio Shirai
42. Kid Tunero
43. Wilfredo Vazquez
44. Myung Woo Yuh
45. Hilario Zapata
