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Post by Daxx on Feb 18, 2012 9:34:11 GMT -5
Yet another time in 2 weeks we have seen commissions allow a fighter to come in far beyond the weight class...Estrada looked like a dewaking small HW in that fight...He was flabby and the extra weight effected his power because it was sloppy weight!!!....Kind of disappointed ESPNFNF went along with it....
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Post by billyc on Feb 19, 2012 15:10:06 GMT -5
ESPN needs to re-vamp.
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Post by Daxx on Feb 19, 2012 19:48:53 GMT -5
Or even better yet for all of boxing as we discussed after JCCJR/Rubio...same day weigh ins
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Post by Davema on Feb 20, 2012 18:07:28 GMT -5
Estarda is a clown. Typical spoiled and undertrained and undermanaged fighter. All the talent in the world but has been babied and put in with stiffs from day one. The dude thinks he is a superstar already and acts like one and he still hasnt fought anyone with a heartbeat....
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Post by billyc on Feb 21, 2012 4:45:19 GMT -5
DaveMa....Can you please just tell us what you really think? Stop sugar coating it!
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Post by Davema on Feb 21, 2012 11:15:05 GMT -5
DaveMa....Can you please just tell us what you really think? Stop sugar coating it! Estrada and Goossen just piss me off becuase of the route they are taking. When I was covering fights for you, I saw Estrada a minimum of six times. It became a running joke ringside about his opponents, or lack thereof |
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Post by billyc on Feb 21, 2012 15:00:42 GMT -5
Well...if you listen to today's show....I got all jacked up on this versy subject with Goossen...he puts his guys in with BUMS....never reaches into his pocket and waits for someone else to pay. They are ALL like that...DiBella, Shaw, Goossen, Star, CES, Thompson, etc, etc, etc. Look at Paul Williams....a complete FRAUD!
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Post by Daxx on Feb 22, 2012 9:20:26 GMT -5
Well...if you listen to today's show....I got all jacked up on this versy subject with Goossen...he puts his guys in with BUMS....never reaches into his pocket and waits for someone else to pay. They are ALL like that...DiBella, Shaw, Goossen, Star, CES, Thompson, etc, etc, etc. Look at Paul Williams....a complete FRAUD! Yes he is....I have been thinking a lot about El Feroz lately....In his 154lb prime if that was right now he would run that division with authority!!! He beats Williams down...If Kirkland tried to slug it out with a prime version of Fernando he would be wishing he was stopped by the Japanese fighter again......K9 loses his belt....I pick El Feroz at 154 over Cotto as well in a hard foght bout..... |
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Post by Daxx on Feb 22, 2012 9:22:53 GMT -5
Vargas would have made Williams mind up for him forget the Sho poll on what weight class best suits him....
AT TO THINK AT ONE TIME HE AND HIS TEAM SAIS WITH PAULS HEIGHT, SKILL AND PUNCHING POWER HE IS A MORE DANGEROUS WW THAN HEARNS EVER WAS!!!........That was just after the Quintana rematch......CAN ANYONE EVEN IMAGINE WHAT HEARNS DOES TO WILLIAMS AT WW?.....OR LEONARD...
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Post by billyc on Feb 22, 2012 12:13:29 GMT -5
We looked at Williams record from his Margarito win through last weekend....really...who has he beat?
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Post by Daxx on Feb 22, 2012 19:27:02 GMT -5
like I said the other day when we were on the phone....8 out of 10 times Quintana beats him...Carlos was not ready for Williams to come out blasting in the 1st round of their rematch...Quintana was shell shocked if he had inclination he might of been able to avoid it more than likely....
Still Vargas has been making me think about these guys heart.....OR Imagine Terry Norris against these guys in his prime?
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Post by billyc on Feb 23, 2012 4:37:53 GMT -5
Yes...and the sad part is THOSE guys (Vargas, Norris) wouldn't have stood a chance with the fighters from the 20's-60's!
Quint was never much...so Williams win over him...even the 1st rd KO never meant anything to me....yes Williams IS average.
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Post by Daxx on Feb 23, 2012 18:52:49 GMT -5
Quintana was already stopped by Cotto before the Williams fight wasnt he?
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