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Post by Daxx on Aug 24, 2010 17:13:27 GMT -5
I canb;t believe this is even being debated...Is there even 6 CW fighters wirthy of making such a tourney?......In all honesty Steve Cunningham is the division there there are the rest.....
Troy Ross Vs Huck would be a cracker of a boiut I would like to see one i think Ross would win by KO but in terms of a SS tourney I cant see this being sold as legit.....
Anyone else here as not excited as I am on this rumor?
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Post by Davema on Aug 24, 2010 18:09:41 GMT -5
whenever someone wants to put the best against each other in the tournament format, Im all for it, even if maybe one or two of the participants might be a step below. what a great vehichle these tourneys can be to get the fights we want
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Post by Daxx on Aug 24, 2010 19:02:15 GMT -5
I am all for the Champions to have it out for a unifactation but when the quality is so thin I don't know if a Super 6 is needed....I mean would you really get hyped for a super 6 HW tourney?
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Post by davemurphy on Aug 25, 2010 2:25:26 GMT -5
I think the HW's are the one division where a Super Six would be a bad idea....especially since (in my opinion) there's three of the six that can't face each other. Two of them because they're Brothers and Haye who wishes he was a third Brother so he'd have an excuse not to back up his hot air.
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Post by mh2365 on Aug 25, 2010 7:11:01 GMT -5
with it being strictly European fighters (and Steve Cunningham) I doubt there would be any American TV outlet that would pick it up or at least pay enough money for Sauerland to want to do it.
Also without Huck & Ross and only 3 Ring Top 10 guys in the tourney it wouldn't be worth it.
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Post by Daxx on Aug 25, 2010 8:37:40 GMT -5
I think the HW's are the one division where a Super Six would be a bad idea....especially since (in my opinion) there's three of the six that can't face each other. Two of them because they're Brothers and Haye who wishes he was a third Brother so he'd have an excuse not to back up his hot air. we agree on that one.... |
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Post by billyc on Aug 25, 2010 11:52:21 GMT -5
Come on man....of COURSE there are six CW's that are worthy!!!! Are you kidding me? Ciningham, Troy Ross, Marco Huck, Denis Lebedev, Zsolt Erdel and Krzysztof Wlodarczyk as the tops and then I like a couple of sleepers like Francisco Palacios, Enzo Macc, Danny Green, Steve Herelius, Valery Brudov, Guillermo Jones and even Alexander Alexeev. There are A LOT of CW's out there who are good. This divsion could become the best in boxing when you think about it. You have 200 lb guys, who when dried out, could weigh 215 at fight time, with speed, AND KO power....this is the HW's pre-LL!
SHIT YES the CW's are a good division and a super six tourney could open people's eyes Brother!
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Post by Davema on Aug 25, 2010 12:34:44 GMT -5
Come on man....of COURSE there are six CW's that are worthy!!!! Are you kidding me? Ciningham, Troy Ross, Marco Huck, Denis Lebedev, Zsolt Erdel and Krzysztof Wlodarczyk as the tops and then I like a couple of sleepers like Francisco Palacios, Enzo Macc, Danny Green, Steve Herelius, Valery Brudov, Guillermo Jones and even Alexander Alexeev. There are A LOT of CW's out there who are good. This divsion could become the best in boxing when you think about it. You have 200 lb guys, who when dried out, could weigh 215 at fight time, with speed, AND KO power....this is the HW's pre-LL! SHIT YES the CW's are a good division and a super six tourney could open people's eyes Brother! is hell freezing over? finally Billy C makes some sense  |
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Post by mh2365 on Aug 25, 2010 12:58:24 GMT -5
the 6 they are talking about are
Cunningham, Wlodarczyk, Herelius, Jones, Lebedev, and Yoan Pablo Hernandez
While I would be happy to watch these fights I doubt any American TV source would put up $$$ for it.
I'd be disappointed in it without Huck & Ross
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Post by billyc on Aug 25, 2010 14:45:43 GMT -5
I would take those six....I think Cunningham is done, but that's another story. I don't even mind that Huck and Ross aren't in it because the winner would need to fight someone! I Think Huck is the number one guy, then Ross THEN Richie Cunningham....I mean Steve.
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Post by davemurphy on Aug 25, 2010 15:03:23 GMT -5
with it being strictly European fighters (and Steve Cunningham) I doubt there would be any American TV outlet that would pick it up or at least pay enough money for Sauerland to want to do it. It's Euro oriented, and even Cunningham is with a European Promoter. I think selling this one on Amercian TV is a real litmus test as to whether American Fight Fans want to see Good Fights or simply American Fighters. I'd like to see Showtime cover it, not actually financing it mind you but just negotiate the American TV Rights and see what Sauerlands asking price is. I think because it's Euro oriented, they'd see anything from the USA market as just gravy and might actually quote a good price. The days when an American TV Audience for Boxing was the Tale that Wags the Dog aren't neccesarly true anymore. it's wanning popularity here coupled with increased interest abroad can make this a success without us. |
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Post by Daxx on Aug 25, 2010 15:07:13 GMT -5
I would take those six....I think Cunningham is done, but that's another story. I don't even mind that Huck and Ross aren't in it because the winner would need to fight someone! I Think Huck is the number one guy, then Ross THEN Richie Cunningham....I mean Steve. What makes you think Cunningham is done? I hope you are not basing this on the Ross fight? |
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Post by Davema on Aug 25, 2010 15:13:59 GMT -5
I would take those six....I think Cunningham is done, but that's another story. I don't even mind that Huck and Ross aren't in it because the winner would need to fight someone! I Think Huck is the number one guy, then Ross THEN Richie Cunningham....I mean Steve. What makes you think Cunningham is done? I hope you are not basing this on the Ross fight? let me explain Daxx..when a fighter does something that pisses Billy C off, like talk trash, act like a dumb ass or something along those lines..he turns on them and calls them bad fighters becuase they say stupid things, instead of judging them on thier skills. see Mayweather and Haye. Billy C-just becuase you think they are tools, doesnt mean they are not good fighters. . I think Dallen might make a Billy C/Davema Turf wars thread lol BC knows I love him, but come guys he kills me on a daily basis, i need some sort of payback. |
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Post by mh2365 on Aug 25, 2010 15:20:09 GMT -5
I would absolutely watch it ... but then again I watch most fights.
Ross was taking it too Cunningham before the cut stopped the fight. The feeds I have seen are in a different language but wasn't there some question about the cut being from a head butt?
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Post by Daxx on Aug 25, 2010 15:23:42 GMT -5
What makes you think Cunningham is done? I hope you are not basing this on the Ross fight? let me explain Daxx..when a fighter does something that pisses Billy C off, like talk trash, act like a dumb ass or something along those lines..he turns on them and calls them bad fighters becuase they say stupid things, instead of judging them on thier skills. see Mayweather and Haye. Billy C-just becuase you think they are tools, doesnt mean they are not good fighters. . I think Dallen might make a Billy C/Davema Turf wars thread lol BC knows I love him, but come guys he kills me on a daily basis, i need some sort of payback. Ha ha...No I got that understanding the first time I met Billy at a show and the LL topic came up...I just thought that it was against LL had no idea he had an ongoing thing about it.... Though I gotta go with Billy on Haye....At least the HW version of haye until he proves different...Mayweather and his skillset bcan not be denied but the shit is as annoying in the press as sand in your bathing suit!!!!!......What really drives me nuts about him is Floyd is actually a decent guy who has a very likable personality and would more then likely be even bigger if he just was Floyd Mayweather Jr and stop all his Money Mayweather crap....Pretty Boy Floyd was a much better moniker in my opinion |
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